Equine Assisted Learning Certification

by Catherine Howard-Lightstone
(Alexandria, Ontario)

Hi Elaine,
It was super to actually meet you and the horses last week. Thank you so much for your time and advice. I have been watching my Clicker Training DVD's...will be starting basic training in the next two weeks! Will keep you posted on that.

My question is have you heard of EAL (Equine Assisted Learning) and realized its connection to Natural Horsemanship, one of the reasons I was drawn to it. I have written to ask about training and certification as it will fit in with my plans for my rescue equines and my work with Intellectually Challenged young adults.

I would be interested in your opinion of said certification. Here's the site with the information:

http://www.thenaturalconnection.ca/index.html

Yours sincerely,
Kate

PS Will make a page about my rag taggle herd...so much to do, so little time..sigh!!!!!!





Hi Kate,

It was wonderful meeting you (and your friend) in person as well!

I am very familiar with Equine Assisted Learning and the many other things we call it that have been created around this idea. The list is never ending: Animal Assisted Intervention, Animal Assisted Therapy, Equine Assisted Therapy/Learning, Facilitated Equine Experiential Learning (FEEL), Equine Assisted Personal Development (EAPD), EAP, EAL, EFP, EFEL, EAPD, EGE, etc, etc.

When I was first introduced to this equine idea, I was so excited to see that people were becoming aware that our horses finally have a new opportunity to engage with us in an evolutionary space. I started learning all I could around the subject and then became disillusioned. As I dug deeper and deeper into the actual tasks and philosophy surrounding some very popular clinicians (who do not have medical health backgrounds) I was bothered that the well being of the horse (and often the human) was not being met. It is not enough to say that Natural Horsemanship on its own is enough or is it well connected to this industry. This method is based upon negative reinforcement only and the definition and techniques get clouded more and more every day. Many who claim to be natural fall very short (in my standards) because they do not practice the whole natural picture which for me includes, no bits, no shoes, no competition, eliminating traditional methods of training and care, using positive reinforcement techniques, considering all their needs before our own etc. (And chasing or even moving a horse in a round pen, is not beneficial for the horses mental well fare, nor is asking a person to put on a halter without any knowledge of such a thing and have them use this as a means to learn how to problem solve, or having a group move a horse through an obstacle course without being able to touch them so that they are left with yelling and waving arms at the animal for compliance.)

To further cloud the industry it is noted that there is much confusion on the terms and titles of those practicing. There is no one governing body in Canada and the United States has their own confusion around the subject. The website you noted has the best review and stats on the subject to date.

http://www.thenaturalconnection.ca/_docs/CIZ-Zootherapie-2009-Eng.pdf

For me there seems to be two distinct areas. Those who are health care professionals with the recognized educational credentials and the others who have experience in different areas (i.e. energy work, shamanism, business degrees and/or horse trainers to name just a few). The code of ethics is different (and sometimes non- existent) for each group which is where my concerns are as well as what some are “doing” with the horses.


Here is the further discord within this industry (as stated in the review on that site):

Anyone can offer a “certification” program and there is little to no communication or collaboration between training/certification programs. There are no standards or guidelines for educational prerequisites to enter the field and the door is left open for anyone to hang out a shingle and partner with an animal to do “personal growth work” with clients.

I understand this part all too well doing the kind of work I do under horse trainer, horse behaviorist, clicker trainer etc. Anyone can claim to be one and there are very few programs offered. Does this make it confusing for people when looking for assistance? Sure it does. We are then left with buyer beware and hoping that the public will educate themselves by doing their own research. Gosh, that’s a lot to ask of them.

I also see us humans trying hard to make up unique, catchy terms to be more marketable. That is why constant definitions of titles and words require revisiting for clarity and disclosure. Furthermore I am convinced that many of these certificate programs are created because there is more financial gain in offering them than the original product of offering a session for the individual person looking for them.

Do I love the idea that the health care industry is utilizing our horses to help people overcome difficulties? You bet I do. And I would partner up with any health care professional with recognized credentials and education (such as a psychologist) to assist in their field of work. But this is how I would prefer to see this all go forward. The well being of the person and animal must be the highest priority by the use of positive reinforcement methods. This is empowering for all parties concerned.

Freedom, Growth and Joy is what all sentient beings desire. It explains why we don't want governing bodies to encompass new evolving work. It's based out of the fear that others with take away our ability to be free to choose. This particular industry is in a state of growth and the end result (I hope) is to seek joy and offer joy from the experience. Nothing wrong with that, I am a big supporter of JOY! Yet once again I wonder if we haven't created something for the mere financial gain of it than really helping people and horses.

I am conflicted at times regarding the need to be “certified” in these fields of work where the programs offered are so limited and unregulated to begin with. A person must decide for themselves if a certification is required in their chosen field of study.

In the end weather a person has a degree in psychology or tons of experience in horse training the goal should be the same which is have a horse and the human feel better after they have had a session with you! All of this is in the infant stages and providing those offering this setting sustain a code of ethics, morals and compassion at the highest level I trust it will unfold beautifully.

Bet you didn't know I had so much to say on this subject! LOL Looking forward for you to share your herd stories with us! They sound like such a great bunch of characters!

Elaine Polny
Training Horses Naturally

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Equine Assisted Learning Certification

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Jul 19, 2011
Purity of Heart Guides Us Well!
by: Elaine Polny

Hi Catherine,
I enjoy opening a can of worms! Because it gives us an opportunity to explore situations more thoroughly and worms have been noted as being the most valuable creature on earth too! There is no other creature that can restore soil to a productive enriching state!

You have concluded the same as I where the tasks often done seem to be for the human and not the horse. And gosh, those fees are something for these programs!

I think what you are doing is wonderful! And you clearly have both parties well being and safety at the forefront of your work. Let your purity of heart be your guide. I too have witnessed these kinds of interactions but with the innocence of children. You have inspired me to write more about this subject.

Why do horses behave so differently with some people?


Jul 17, 2011
More thoughts on EAL
by: Catherine

Hi,
As usual you have got me thinking! I have been hesitating and then researching, then hesitating again and balking at the incredible fees they have been charging for these certifications. Not that I wouldn't pay for something really good....but each has its own set of bells and whistles and as you stated its all at the beginning of regulations. Most of the games etc seem to be for the humans not the horses or equines and that wasn't what I'm looking for.

I have already observed the donkeys and one of my horses having their own unique intreactions without my interference except to be present and prevent my clients being nipped or pushed by curious donkeys or the clients grabbing ears or pulling fur etc, I just wanted to have more of these amazing interactions where the donkeys came over on their own accord to check out the new humans in the paddock. They immediately seemed to sense that these humans were different and became calm and still. My horse too, who is usually not affectionate unless she thinks there is food in the deal...came up to the fence stuck her head over and put her head on the young womans shoulder and let her cuddle her. She has never done that with me even with the tastiest bribes!

I watched the donkeys stand calmly while these two adult profoundly mentally challenged adults clumsily tried to pat and then brush them. Had it been me I would have had a testy nudge to remind me I wasn't going the right way with the brush. Instead they tolerated...they weren't tied....didn't move away. I just find it extrodinary this unique behaviour.....this is what I want to build on. Not force my animals into unatural or uncomfortable situations...just them explore in safety for both parties. So far I don't see this in any of the certification programs no matter what they are called. Sigh.
I guess I opened a can of worms!

Will try and get some photos or videos of this continuing journey of human equine interaction.
Thanks again for your wisdom.
Regards,
Kate (Catherine Howard-Lightstone)

Jul 16, 2011
EAL moving forward
by: Elaine Polny

Hi Daniela,

What interesting work you do! And you seem very aware and committed about making a change for the betterment of all, very honorable indeed.

I too believe there is nothing wrong about marketing or earning a living offering a service that will benefit others. What should be considered here is the "earned (not manipulated)" and "honesty in marketing". When our intentions are pure and in our case of using horses as the mediator with compassion, ethics and respectfulness intact for both horse and human, nothing wrong with allowing financial success to flow.

When it comes to the topic of EAL or any personal development project what I feel everyone wants and needs is for those who are offering these services to be cognizant that they teach within their level of expertise. Particularly in the mental health field, we wouldn't want just anyone playing doctor!

"Would it be possible to design EAL according to your standards? Even if they were not certified, common sense tells me you're the closest to these terms!"
Anything is possible! Especially when our intentions are of the purest helping form!

"Apart from reading all your answers here, how could I learn more from you, being here in Mexico?"
Honestly, I am a little stumped here myself. I guess we would need to brainstorm and identify the specifics of your goals that you would like to accomplish. I think you are about to put me to work!

"I'd love to have a steady and direct communication with you and discuss training and, if you think fit, a partnership of any kind."
I am honored by the request and would need to discuss further how we could both mutually benefit from such an undertaking. Please feel free to continue this discussion through our Contact Us form.

Jul 15, 2011
On Certification
by: Anonymous

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Why I believe this? Because of the round pen all the others believe to be 'the top of the heat parade'! Probably being a beginner, I thought somehow with the mimd of a horse: why on earth is this guy/lady chasing me in this round pen?! What have I done so they suddenly send me away?! What's in it for me?! And I didn't understand why this chasing around would make any difference! I tried it. It does work... for me! Still... I don't quite believe in its benefits for the horse!!! Yes, I could make the horse follow me and have some of my frustrations out. But... how about the horse? Did he enjoy it?! I don't think so! I couldn't feel his joy. Only mine! Even more, while running around in the pen I even felt he was scared and confused! And then, my joy also vanished because it didn't feel right. Then I read what you had to say about it and... there it was!!! You have the same feeling. Reason for which, I'd want to learn from you, certification of not!

Apart from reading all your answers here, how could I learn more from you, being here in Mexico? I do want to turn from the office to the ranch and, yes, observing horses' benefit first. At least for some EAL and other things a horse can teach a human leader, I think I do have some professional backround to build on. Could you help me? I'd like to work first with the horses of the traditional ranchers here and involve them in such courses so the ranchers could see how much more their horses are capable of and have an alternative to 'breeding and selling them for money', to support themselves. How and where will all these horses end?! It's better that they earn money using their horses in such activities than breeding them endlessly. I only convinced one to get the shoes out of his horses' legs!!! But one is... something! I'm sure I could do more! WOuld you help me, please?!

I'd love to have a steady and direct communication with you and discuss training and, if you think fit, a partnership of any kind. Below is my contact data, please feel free to write and let me know what you think. I'd be happy to call you if you allow me to.

Thanks for your time and all the info in your site (which is really helpful and I still haven't finished reading all the sections!).

Sicnerely yours,
DANIELA ADRIANA IGNAT
Specialist in Linguistics & Semiotics
Brainstreams - Marketing Intelligence
Office: (+52) 55 5846 4523
Mobile: (+52) 55 3717 9379
http://www.brainstreams.mex.tl/
http://www.brainstreamstraductores.mex.tl/
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Jul 15, 2011
On Certification
by: Anonymous

(continued)

Unfortunately, I'm in Mexico! But the 'good' thing is that... there's a lot to do here with and for horses! Have already had an 'event' to teach some stubborn ranchers how to handle the horses without touching the reins and try to convince them against the shoes. I, of course, hired someone to teach these things for I'm a beginner in riding. It worked pretty well. To my complete surprise, the young and even the older were really interested and want to learn more. This gave me the hope that even Mexican horse traditions can be broken!!! There are some old tradition ranchers who are even interested in helping with this business because, after all, initiating a horse in a couple of hours without any pain and then learning to train the horse themselves is cheaper for them than putting the animal in school for one year!!! It is a very 'shy' and, maybe lame beginning since I do not have your expertise but it is a beginning.

As for the concept of JOY: if it were only for this, and it can be sold to any learning teams! Of course there's much more to it and one can learn a lot from a horse (if one wants!) even if the courses were not perfectly structured. The executives are sent to countless courses (leadership, team building etc. etc.) with not much to learn because, primarily... there's no joy in that sort of learning. Secondly, because all those courses really are ONLY MARKETING!!! I know for I'm one of them (both a market analyst and an executive)! The first thing an executive wants on taking such course is... JOY! So I believe, selling this for the benefit of the horses is not a sin! Marketing sells tons of 'trash' under very sophisticated concepts and imaginary needs while lacking any product quality/use (see Coca-Cola!!!). The need for JOY in people's lives is real and the fact that a horse can really give it to us is also real! There is no marketing 'trick' here, it is simply true! Certification or not, cloudy or not, fact is, a horse CAN AND DOES capture your deepest feelings and give endless joy in the process. Why not earning a good living for the horses through this capacity of theirs?!

I do not advocate 'cloudy learning', that's why I go for your standards - of all I've read (including the famous Monty Roberts, whom I don't give that much credit as the Queen did, for it's too much business and marketing in his ranch!!!). Would it be possible to design EAL according to your standards? Even if they were not certified, common sense tells me you're the closest to this terms!

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Jul 15, 2011
On Certification
by: Anonymous

Hi Elaine,

I'll place my comment in 2-3 sections for it's too long!!!

I've just read your answer to Catherine. I, for one, am not surprised you've got so much to say on the topic, in fact, I believe you're one who really have something to say! Or, maybe, this is exactly what I was hoping someone like you would answer - you've met my expectations! Only once have I asked you a question regarding a stallion I was riding (as a beginner... I'm still alive, and the stallion is now a gelding!!! Not because of me but because he attacked another Spanish pure blood stallion twice and left lots of scars on him and one broken tooth, poor Prince).

Anyway, I do agree with everything you just answered here. This EAL (and all the other names given) is really clouded, especially by its marketing use. NOw, I work in Marketing Research... guilty! I also REALLY want to develop a concept of EAL and coaching for leadership with horses, and everything that might involve horses. I do not want to make a business out of it just to get rich but to be able to make a decent living for the animals around me and myself and to ensure them exactly what you said: no shoes, no reins, no use of the horses for the sake of money in any show/contest/race - I'm so against any animal show. I'd also want to make the horses partners in such business, that is to say, they'd have their own part, just for them. It is not that I'd want to 'expand' in my already working business (which is wide enough as it is, involving marketing, translations, academy & traning). I want to turn to EAL and horse assisted courses because I want to stay with the horses 24/7 (or as much as possible) and live with them in their friendly environment, and to do so, I'd have to bring them into my work or vice-versa. I don't care how much I could get out of this 'business' as long as this can pay for having them under your standards and have them taken care of for life! I don't care if the horses are pure blood or the ones nobody wants anymore. I'd probably prefer the latter.

I am not a psychologist, yet I did study psychology for about 8 years, was a teacher for 21 years in all education levels (kindergarten to university) and I'm licensed in philology (linguistics, semiotics, communication involved). Would you partner with someone with these credentials?

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