My horse gets dangerously over excited

by Vicki
(Australia)

Where are my buddies?

Where are my buddies?

After doing ground work in a yard where he can't see his paddock mate as we start to head down the track toward the paddock he will almost trample whoever is leading him doing circles, trotting head high as if going to a race track how can I get him to settle and work without knocking down a lot of trees do they can see each other. It has become unsafe to work him with out the other horse present.

Answer:

Hi Vicki,

When it comes to the point where a horse will put his/her own personal safety and the safety of others at risk they suffer from a severe case of separation anxiety. This dangerous situation must be handled carefully and breaking training down into small steps to avoid the horse from becoming so unfocused must be taken.

I take it in your explanation that the horse was reacting more when being returned to the paddock where the other horse was? How was he when you removed him from the paddock to begin with? Was your session with him where he could not see the other horses successful? Or was the horse displaying a lot of concern like calling back to the other horses or being unfocused upon you?

When a horse becomes this anxious about being alone all it mean is we have gone too far too fast for the horse to reason with his environment. Remember as a prey animal being left alone is like a death sentence for them and unless we can fill the need of the horse “feeling” we are a good replacement for another horses company we will have a difficult time helping them.

Focus, focus, focus. I measure a horse’s focus at all times. Just like in your situation where you could be standing or leading a horse but you know they cannot “see you” because their focus is elsewhere, I must first get their focus upon "me" and away from everything else. Trust and then respect is what I would constantly work on. As well as measuring when and where does the horse react? Is it 5 feet from the gate or 20 feet from the gate?

Have a look at the video on this page Dominant Horse Behavior. In the beginning, notice when I do not have the focus of the horse who knows the other horses on the other side of the arena doors. If it was summer time I would have had the doors open with a gate across so he could see them first while we establish some play training.

Take smaller steps and build upon each success. Clicker Training is a great tool for obtaining a horses focus. And see our page on Separation Anxiety for a more detailed explanation too.

Elaine Polny
Training Horses Naturally

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My horse gets dangerously over excited

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Pepper
by: Vicki


Thank you , I have extended the yards so that they dont actually see each other clearly, this way he can feel safe about not seeing his mate but know he is right there. I have decided the best thing is to take his friend with us and put him close and within sight to work. Im not sure how to go about this as yet for safety reasons. His behaviour is unpredictable on the ground let alone on his back! I stopped being up there quite a while ago. There is no one I trust to restart him within 500kms so that is not an option.I believe Pepper will never be able to be ridden, whatever happened to him on the track and in his former life has scared him terribly. He will stay with me as I know he will be safe here, no matter what.

Dangerous Horse Behavior
by: Elaine Polny

When I see unpredictable behavior in any horse I think of three things. The horse's health, a change in the environment and my training methods. Behavioral issues stem from these components. So first I want to be sure that the horse is not compromised health wise in any way including dental, nutritional or ill fitting tack etc. (it's a big subject) Next I will notice if the change in environment has caused something and sometimes it can just be the wind blowing making the horse uncomfortable (they do have good days and bad days just like us!) Or in your case when removing a horse from another horse changes "their" environment. You see, the environment can be external and internal. Finally (but usually firstly) I will look at myself and re-evaluate my training methods to determine if I have been consistent and methodical. I am a strong believer that I am the one to change not the horse since they cannot be held responsible for what they understand or do not understand, I must take the accountability for that.

You are dealing with a very big challenge here one you may need to get a professional trainer to assist you because I am concerned about your safety. If you feel you are at risk then please listen to your inner guidance system (your gut) it will never steer you wrong.

Possibly this page with some tips to retrain an off the track thoroughbred will help too.

In the meantime, set your facility up where you can play with one in a separate place while the other can still see them. It takes a lot of leadership on our part to help these kinds of horses before being able to have them separate from their own kind and feel safe.

Be safe,
Elaine

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by: Vicki

Thanks Elaine. We have worked at going slowly out of sight over many months and he can be fine on one day and not the next. He seems unpredictable in his behaviour. Pepper is an OTT TB ( He actually is identical to the photo on here!)and I have owned him for 5 years. He is getting worse instead of better. I have even worked him in the round yard WITH the other horse present to see what happens. He works well but I find it difficult as Im on my own and to have them both in the work yard at the same time as one will always be on his own either way. Pepper does work himself up into a complete lather when he is in the paddock and he cant see his mate! It makes him impossible to calm down and Im afraid he will hurt himself by going through the fence. He will run straight up to me and slide to a stop as if Im not there! He is fine and even playful in the paddock so long as his mate is where he can see him. I have found out that he has never been alone, even when racing. It was in the stable with mates around, racing and back to the stable. He has me worried to ride him as I really dont feel safe on the ground anymore either. I cant even put someone up on his back and lead them as he can freak out at nothing. He can focus and then its gone in seconds.

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